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Deer - Graceful and Majestic

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DEER

Deer are the ruminant mammals forming the family Cervidae. They include for example Moose, Red Deer, Reindeer, Roe and Chital. Animals from related families within the order Artiodactyla (even-toed ungulates) are often also considered to be deer – these include muntjac and water deer. Male (and a few female) deer of all species (except the Chinese Water deer who only have short tusks instead) grow and shed new antlers each year – in this they differ from permanently horned animals such as antelope – these are in the same order as deer and may bear a superficial resemblance. The musk deer of Asia and Water Chevrotain (or Mouse Deer) of tropical African and Asian forests are not usually regarded as true deer and form their own families, Moschidae and Tragulidae, respectively.

TERMINOLOGY

The word "deer" was originally quite broad in meaning, but became more specific over time. In Middle English der (O.E. dēor) meant a wild animal of any kind (as opposed to cattle, which then meant any domestic livestock). This general sense gave way to the modern sense by the end of the Middle English period, around 1500. Cognates of English "deer" in several other languages still have the general sense of "animal – for example German Tier, Dutch dier, and Scandinavian djur, dyr, dýr. "Deer" is the same in the plural as in the singular.

For most deer the male is called a buck and the female is a doe, according to the size of the species. For many medium-sized deer the male is a stag and the female a hind, while for many larger deer the same words are used as for cattle: bull and cow. Terms for young deer vary similarly, with that of most being called a fawn and that of the larger species calf; young of the smallest kinds may be a kid. A group of deer of any kind is a herd. Usage of all these terms may also vary according to dialect. The adjective of relation pertaining to deer is cervine; like the family name "Cervidae" this is from Latin cervus, "deer."

The word hart is an old alternative word for "stag" (from Old English heorot, "deer" – compare with modern Dutch hert, also "deer"). It is not now widely used, but Shakespeare makes several references (for example in Twelfth Night), punning on the sound-alike "hart" and "heart". "The White Hart" and "The Red Hart" remain common English pub names, and the county Hertfordshire is thought to be named after a place where deer forded a watercourse. Whinfell Forest once contained a landmark tree called Harthorn.

HABITAT

Deer are widely distributed, and hunted, with indigenous representatives in all continents except Antarctica and Australia, though Africa has only one native species, the Red Deer, confined to the Atlas Mountains in the northwest of the continent.

Deer live in a variety of biomes ranging from tundra to the tropical rainforest. While often associated with forests, many deer are ecotone species that live in transitional areas between forests and thickets (for cover) and prairie and savanna (open space). The majority of large deer species inhabit temperate mixed deciduous forest, mountain mixed coniferous forest, tropical seasonal/dry forest, and savanna habitats around the world. Clearing open areas within forests to some extent may actually benefit deer populations by exposing the understory and allowing the types of grasses, weeds, and herbs to grow that deer like to eat. Additionally, access to adjacent croplands may also benefit deer. However, adequate forest or brush cover must still be provided for populations to grow and thrive.

Small species of brocket deer and pudús of Central and South America, and muntjacs of Asia generally occupy dense forests and are less often seen in open spaces, with the possible exception of the Indian Muntjac. There are also several species of deer that are highly specialized, and live almost exclusively in mountains, grasslands, swamps, and "wet" savannas, or riparian corridors surrounded by deserts. Some deer have a circumpolar distribution in both North America and Eurasia. Examples include the caribou that live in Arctic tundra and taiga (boreal forests) and moose that inhabit taiga and adjacent areas. Huemul Deer (taruca and Chilean Huemul) of South America's Andes fill an ecological niche of the ibex or Wild Goat, with the fawns behaving more like goat kids.

The highest concentration of large deer species in temperate North America lies in the Canadian Rocky Mountain and Columbia Mountain Regions between Alberta and British Columbia where all five North American deer species (White-tailed deer, Mule deer, Caribou, Elk, and Moose) can be found. This region has several clusters of national parks including Mount Revelstoke National Park, Glacier National Park (Canada), Yoho National Park, and Kootenay National Park on the British Columbia side, and Banff National Park, Jasper National Park, and Glacier National Park (U.S.) on the Alberta and Montana sides. Mountain slope habitats vary from moist coniferous/mixed forested habitats to dry subalpine/pine forests with alpine meadows higher up. The foothills and river valleys between the mountain ranges provide a mosaic of cropland and deciduous parklands. The rare woodland caribou have the most restricted range living at higher altitudes in the subalpine meadows and alpine tundra areas of some of the mountain ranges. Elk and Mule Deer both migrate between the alpine meadows and lower coniferous forests and tend to be most common in this region. Elk also inhabit river valley bottomlands, which they share with White-tailed deer. The White-tailed deer have recently expanded their range within the foothills and river valley bottoms of the Canadian Rockies owing to conversion of land to cropland and the clearing of coniferous forests allowing more deciduous vegetation to grow up the mountain slopes. They also live in the aspen parklands north of Calgary and Edmonton, where they share habitat with the moose. The adjacent Great Plains grassland habitats are left to herds of Elk, American Bison, and pronghorn antelope.

The Eurasian Continent (including the Indian Subcontinent) boasts the most species of deer in the world, with most species being found in Asia. Europe, in comparison, has lower diversity in plant and animal species. However, many national parks and protected reserves in Europe do have populations of Red Deer, Roe Deer, and Fallow Deer. These species have long been associated with the continent of Europe, but also inhabit Asia Minor, the Caucasus Mountains, and Northwestern Iran. "European" Fallow Deer historically lived over much of Europe during the Ice Ages, but afterwards became restricted primarily to the Anatolian Peninsula, in present-day Turkey. Present-day Fallow deer populations in Europe are a result of historic man-made introductions of this species first to the Mediterranean regions of Europe, then eventually to the rest of Europe. They were initially park animals that later escaped and reestablished themselves in the wild. Historically, Europe's deer species shared their deciduous forest habitat with other herbivores such as the extinct tarpan (forest horse), extinct aurochs (forest ox), and the endangered wisent (European bison). Good places to see deer in Europe include the Scottish Highlands, the Austrian Alps, and the wetlands between Austria, Hungary, and Czech Republic. Some fine National Parks include Doñana National Park in Spain, the Veluwe in the Netherlands, the Ardennes in Belgium, and Białowieża National Park of Poland. Spain, Eastern Europe, and the Caucasus Mountains still have virgin forest areas that are not only home to sizable deer populations but also for other animals that were once abundant such as the wisent, Eurasian Lynx, Spanish lynx, wolves, and Brown Bears.

The highest concentration of large deer species in temperate Asia occurs in the mixed deciduous forests, mountain coniferous forests, and taiga bordering North Korea, Manchuria (Northeastern China), and the Ussuri Region (Russia). These are among some of the richest deciduous and coniferous forests in the world where one can find Siberian Roe Deer, Sika Deer, Elk, and Moose. Asian Caribou occupy the northern fringes of this region along the Sino-Russian border.

Deer such as the Sika Deer, Thorold's deer, Central Asian Red Deer, and Elk have historically been farmed for their antlers by Han Chinese, Turkic peoples, Tungusic peoples, Mongolians, and Koreans. Like the Sami people of Finland and Scandinavia, the Tungusic peoples, Mongolians, and Turkic peoples of Southern Siberia, Northern Mongolia, and the Ussuri Region have also taken to raising semi-domesticated herds of Asian Caribou.

The highest concentration of large deer species in the tropics occurs in Southern Asia in Northern India's Indo-Gangetic Plain Region and Nepal's Terai Region. These fertile plains consist of tropical seasonal moist deciduous, dry deciduous forests, and both dry and wet savannas that are home to Chital, Hog Deer, Barasingha, Indian Sambar, and Indian Muntjac. Grazing species such as the endangered Barasingha and very common Chital are gregarious and live in large herds. Indian Sambar can be gregarious but are usually solitary or live in smaller herds. Hog Deer are solitary and have lower densities than Indian Muntjac. Deer can be seen in several national parks in India, Nepal, and Sri Lanka of which Kanha National Park, Dudhwa National Park, and Chitwan National Park are most famous. Sri Lanka's Wilpattu National Park and Yala National Park have large herds of Indian Sambar and Chital. The Indian sambar are more gregarious in Sri Lanka than other parts of their range and tend to form larger herds than elsewhere.

The Chao Praya River Valley of Thailand was once primarily tropical seasonal moist deciduous forest and wet savanna that hosted populations of Hog Deer, the now-extinct Schomburgk's Deer, the Eld's Deer, Indian Sambar, and Indian Muntjac. Both the Hog Deer and Eld's Deer are rare, whereas Indian Sambar and Indian Muntjac thrive in protected national parks such as Khao Yai.

Many of these South Asian and Southeast Asian deer species also share their habitat with various herbivores such as Asian Elephants, various Asian rhinoceros species, various antelope species (such as nilgai, Four-horned Antelope, blackbuck, and Indian gazelle in India), and wild oxen (such as Wild Asian Water Buffalo, gaur, banteng, and kouprey). How different herbivores can survive together in a given area is each species have different food preferences, although there may be some overlap.

Australia has six introduced species of deer that have established sustainable wild populations from acclimatisation society releases in the 19th Century. These are Fallow Deer, Red Deer, Sambar Deer, Hog Deer, Rusa deer, and Chital. Red Deer introduced into New Zealand in 1851 from English and Scottish stock were domesticated in deer farms by the late 1960s and are common farm animals there now. Seven other species of deer were introduced into New Zealand but none are as widespread as Red Deer.

BIOLOGY

Extant deer range in size from the 10 kg (22 lb) Northern Pudu to the 450 kg (990 lb) Moose. They generally have lithe, compact bodies and long, powerful legs suited for rugged woodland terrain. Deer are also excellent jumpers and swimmers. Deer are ruminants, or cud-chewers, and have a four-chambered stomach. The teeth of deer are adapted to feeding on vegetation, and like other ruminants, they lack upper incisors, instead having a tough pad at the front of their upper jaw. Some deer, such as those on the island of Rùm, do consume meat when it is available. The Chinese water deer, Tufted deer and muntjac have enlarged upper canine teeth forming sharp tusks, while other species often lack upper canines altogether. The cheek teeth of deer have crescent ridges of enamel, which enable them to grind a wide variety of vegetation.
The dental formula for deer is:

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Nearly all deer have a facial gland in front of each eye. The gland contains a strongly scented pheromone, used to mark its home range. Bucks of a wide range of species open these glands wide when angry or excited. All deer have a liver without a gallbladder. Deer also have a Tapetum lucidum which gives them sufficiently good night vision.

A doe generally has one or two fawns at a time (triplets, while not unknown, are uncommon). The gestation period is anywhere up to ten months for the European Roe Deer. Most fawns are born with their fur covered with white spots, though in many species they lose their spots once they get older. In the first twenty minutes of a fawn's life, the fawn begins to take its first steps. Its mother licks it clean until it is almost free of scent, so predators will not find it. Its mother leaves often, and the fawn does not like to be left behind. Sometimes its mother must gently push it down with her foot. The fawn stays hidden in the grass for one week until it is strong enough to walk with its mother. The fawn and its mother stay together for about one year. A male usually never sees his mother again, but females sometimes come back with their own fawns and form small herds.

Deer are selective feeders. They are usually browsers, and primarily feed on leaves. They have small, unspecialized stomachs by ruminant standards, and high nutrition requirements. Rather than attempt to digest vast quantities of low-grade, fibrous food as, for example, sheep and cattle do, deer select easily digestible shoots, young leaves, fresh grasses, soft twigs, fruit, fungi, and lichens.

ANTLERS

With the exception of the Chinese Water Deer, which have tusks, all male deer have antlers that are shed and regrown every year from a structure called a pedicle. Sometimes a female will have a small stub. The only female deer with antlers are Reindeer (Caribou). Antlers grow as highly vascular spongy tissue covered in a skin called velvet. Before the beginning of a species' mating season, the antlers calcify under the velvet and become hard bone. The velvet is then rubbed off leaving dead bone which forms the hard antlers. After the mating season, the pedicle and the antler base are separated by a layer of softer tissue, and the antler falls off.

One way that many hunters are able to track main paths that the deer travel on is because of their "rubs". A rub is used to deposit scent from glands near the eye and forehead and physically mark territory.

During the mating season, bucks use their antlers to fight one another for the opportunity to attract mates in a given herd. The two bucks circle each other, bend back their legs, lower their heads, and charge.

Each species has its own characteristic antler structure – for example white-tailed deer antlers include a series of tines sprouting upward from a forward-curving main beam, while Fallow Deer and Moose antlers are palmate, with a broad central portion. Mule deer (and Black-tailed Deer), species within the same genus as the white-tailed deer, instead have bifurcated (or branched) antlers—that is, the main beam splits into two, each of which may split into two more. Young males of many deer, and the adults of some species, such as brocket deer and pudus, have antlers which are single spikes.

Most species of deer in the "True Deer" subfamily (Cervinae) have large, impressive antlers with several tines that are highly prized by game hunters and collectors. Four Members of the Odocoleinae subfamily whose antlers are also popular and sought after are the moose, caribou, White-tailed deer, and mule deer. The most impressive White-tailed deer antlers come from populations in Texas, the Northern Great Plains Region,and the Great Lakes/Midwest Agricultural Region. The most impressive mule deer antlers come from populations in the Rocky Mountains and the deserts of the Southwestern United States and Northern Mexico. The most impressive moose and caribou antlers come from populations living in Siberia, Canada, and Alaska. For Elk and Red Deer, a stag having 14 points is an "imperial", and a stag having 12 points is a "royal". Occasional individual red deer males may have no antlers: these are known as hummels, and they may grow significantly larger than normal males.

COLOR

Piebald Deer

A piebald deer is a deer with a brown and white spotting pattern which is not caused by parasites or diseases. They can appear to be almost entirely white. In addition to the non-standard coloration, other differences have been observed: bowing or Roman nose, overly arched spine (scoliosis), long tails, short legs, and underbites.

White Deer

Seneca County, New York State maintains the largest herd of white deer. White pigmented White-tailed Deer began populating the deer population in the area now known as the Conservation Area of the former Seneca Army Depot. The U.S. Army gave the white deer protection while managing the normal colored deer through hunting. The white deer coloration is the result of a recessive gene.

EVOLUTION

The earliest fossil deer including Heteroprox date from the Oligocene of Europe, and resembled the modern muntjacs. Later species were often larger, with more impressive antlers. They rapidly spread to the other continents, even for a time occupying much of northern Africa, where they are now almost wholly absent. Some extinct deer had huge antlers, larger than those of any living species. Examples include Eucladoceros, and the giant deer Megaloceros, whose antlers stretched to 3.5 metres across.

ECONOMIC SIGNIFICANCE

Deer have long had economic significance to humans. Deer meat, for which they are hunted and farmed, is called venison. Deer organ meat is called humble. See humble pie.

The Sami of Scandinavia and the Kola Peninsula of Russia and other nomadic peoples of northern Asia use reindeer for food, clothing, and transport.

The caribou in North America is not domesticated or herded as is the case of reindeer (the same species) in Europe, but is important as a quarry animal to the Inuit. Most commercial venison in the United States is imported from New Zealand.

Deer were originally brought to New Zealand by European settlers, and the deer population rose rapidly. This caused great environmental damage and was controlled by hunting and poisoning until the concept of deer farming developed in the 1960s. Deer farms in New Zealand number more than 3,500, with more than 400,000 deer in all.

Automobile collisions with deer can impose a significant cost on the economy. In the U.S., about 1.5 million deer-vehicle collisions occur each year, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Those accidents cause about 150 human deaths and $1.1 billion in property damage annually.

HYBRID DEER

In On the Origin of Species (1859), Charles Darwin wrote "Although I do not know of any thoroughly well-authenticated cases of perfectly fertile hybrid animals, I have some reason to believe that the hybrids from Cervulus kitten and Reevesii [...] are perfectly fertile." These two varieties of muntjac are currently considered the same species.

A number of deer hybrids are bred to improve meat yield in farmed deer. American Elk (or Wapiti) and Red Deer from the Old World can produce fertile offspring in captivity, and were once considered one species. Hybrid offspring, however, must be able to escape and defend themselves against predators, and these hybrid offspring are unable to do so in the wild state. Recent DNA, animal behavior studies, and morphology and antler characteristics have shown there are not one but three species of Red Deer: European Red Deer, Central Asian Red Deer, and American Elk or Wapiti. The European Elk is a different species and is known as moose in North America. The hybrids are about 30% more efficient in producing antlers by comparing velvet to body weight. Wapiti have been introduced into some European Red Deer herds to improve the Red Deer type, but not always with the intended improvement.

In New Zealand, where deer are introduced species, there are hybrid zones between Red Deer and North American Wapiti populations and also between Red Deer and Sika Deer populations. In New Zealand, Red Deer have been artificially hybridized with Pere David Deer in order to create a farmed deer which gives birth in spring. The initial hybrids were created by artificial insemination and back-crossed to Red Deer. However, such hybrid offspring can only survive in captivity free of predators.

In Canada, the farming of European Red Deer and Red Deer hybrids is considered a threat to native Wapiti. In Britain, the introduced Sika Deer is considered a threat to native Red Deer. Initial Sika Deer/Red Deer hybrids occur when young Sika stags expand their range into established red deer areas and have no Sika hinds to mate with. They mate instead with young Red hinds and produce fertile hybrids. These hybrids mate with either Sika or Red Deer (depending which species is prevalent in the area), resulting in mongrelization. Many of the Sika Deer which escaped from British parks were probably already hybrids for this reason. These hybrids do not properly inherit survival strategies and can only survive in either a captive state or when there are no predators.

In captivity, Mule Deer have been mated to White-tail Deer. Both male Mule Deer/female White-tailed Deer and male White-tailed Deer/female Mule Deer matings have produced hybrids. Less than 50% of the hybrid fawns survived their first few months. Hybrids have been reported in the wild but are disadvantaged because they don't properly inherit survival strategies. Mule Deer move with bounding leaps (all 4 hooves hit the ground at once, also called "stotting") to escape predators. Stotting is so specialized that only 100% genetically pure Mule Deer seem able to do it. In captive hybrids, even a one-eighth White-tail/seven-eighths Mule Deer hybrid has an erratic escape behaviour and would be unlikely to survive to breeding age. Hybrids do survive on game ranches where both species are kept and where predators are controlled by man.

CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE

Deer are represented in heraldry by the stag or hart, or less often, by the hind, and the brocket (a young stag up to two years), respectively. Stag's heads and antlers also appear as charges. The old name for deer was simply cerf, and it is chiefly the head which appears on the ancient arms. Examples for deers in heraldry can be found in the arms of Hertfordshire, England and its county town of Hertford; both are examples of canting arms.

Several Norwegian municipalities have a stag or stag's head in their arms: Gjemnes, Hitra, Hjartdal, Rendalen and Voss. A deer appears on the arms of the Israeli Postal Authority.

Sources and More information about deer:

http://www.deer.com/
http://www.invisible-deer-fence.com/inf ... ives_1.htm
http://www.facts-about.org.uk/animals-deer.htm
http://www.deerfarmer.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer
We're all familiar with deer, one of the most elegant creatures on Earth.
Majority of WQ users know the famous Disney movie Bambi, and the popular Fire Bringer, a novel by David Clement-Davies.

What is your favorite species of deer, and why?

I like Red Deer, which is the largest species of deer, and of course, White-tailed deer.
There are quite a lot of deer living in my area, I can easily spot 2-3 deer per each day early in the morning on the field located on our backyard.
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Post by Starry63 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:55 am

The only types of deer I've seen in my area is White-tailed deer. The other day, we actually saw two large does and two fawns walking together. We believe there must be a stag somewhere that hasn't showed himself yet.

My favorite deer would have to be Sika Deer. I find the coloration on the does and fawns to be a remarkable site and the males amaze me by their large size.

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Post by -Sheeba » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:31 am

My favorite type of deer would have to be the White-tailed Deer. They are just so elegent and peaceful. Unfortunately, we don't have them where I live.

Here in Newfoundland, we only have two types of deer, one of them being the largest in the deer family; the Moose, and the Caribou.

Moose here have caused a lot of problems regarding car accidents, especially after dark. Apparently, people are thinking about putting up fences surrounding each side of all the main roads and highways, called "Moose fences". The provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia have upgraded to these fences, and according to word, they seem to be working quite well. The population of Moose in Newfoundland is just unbelievable, even with the great numbers of car accidents that lead in many of their deaths. The highway around a place called Terra Nova Park is almost deadly for driving on in the night, as the Moose population there, I beleive, is the biggest in all of Newfoundland. There are more car accidents there involving Moose collisions than anywhere in this province. In my opinion, if they ever confirm that Moose fences will be built, they should be doing it soon. There are too many human lives being lost, let alone the lives of Moose.

Caribou, on the other hand do not have as high of a population as thier Moose cousin. More and more Caribou are disappearing off the island, which is now believed to be the result of Coy-wolves. Coy-wolves are a mix between a Coyote and a Wolf, and by the look of things, that's definately what we have roaming Newfoundland. These animals weigh up to 90 pounds, travel (and hunt) in large packs, their favorite meal being the Caribou. Ever since Coy-wolves have been spotted in these parts, Caribou numbers have been declining, and the opposite for the Coy-wolf. When I was younger, Caribou in large herds could be spotted almost everywhere. Now, since Coy-wolf numbers have increased over the past few years, Caribou are literally disappearing. Just last year, I saw only four Caribou, they who were all spotted grazing together. The carcasses of deceased Caribou are found stranded on the ice every winter, and much more than once, the only possible suspect being the Coy-wolf. The only other large predators we have on the island are Black Bears, and Lynx, which are highly unlikely, to not likely at all as being the result in deaths of Caribou.
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Post by Blightwolf » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:15 pm

White Deer:
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Piebald Deer:
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Black/Melanistic Deer:
http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/wp-co ... ck9-07.jpg

Just figured I'd share. I wonder if the origin of the Piebald deer is caused by inbreeding and such, since they have been documented having disformaties in their physique?
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Post by silverpelt 457 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:00 am

Mmmmmmm!I like white-tailed deer because they are so tasty!

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-x-Sheeba-x- wrote:My favorite type of deer would have to be the White-tailed Deer. They are just so elegent and peaceful. Unfortunately, we don't have them where I live.

Here in Newfoundland, we only have two types of deer, one of them being the largest in the deer family; the Moose, and the Caribou.

Moose here have caused a lot of problems regarding car accidents, especially after dark. Apparently, people are thinking about putting up fences surrounding each side of all the main roads and highways, called "Moose fences". The provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia have upgraded to these fences, and according to word, they seem to be working quite well. The population of Moose in Newfoundland is just unbelievable, even with the great numbers of car accidents that lead in many of their deaths. The highway around a place called Terra Nova Park is almost deadly for driving on in the night, as the Moose population there, I beleive, is the biggest in all of Newfoundland. There are more car accidents there involving Moose collisions than anywhere in this province. In my opinion, if they ever confirm that Moose fences will be built, they should be doing it soon. There are too many human lives being lost, let alone the lives of Moose.

Caribou, on the other hand do not have as high of a population as thier Moose cousin. More and more Caribou are disappearing off the island, which is now believed to be the result of Coy-wolves. Coy-wolves are a mix between a Coyote and a Wolf, and by the look of things, that's definately what we have roaming Newfoundland. These animals weigh up to 90 pounds, travel (and hunt) in large packs, their favorite meal being the Caribou. Ever since Coy-wolves have been spotted in these parts, Caribou numbers have been declining, and the opposite for the Coy-wolf. When I was younger, Caribou in large herds could be spotted almost everywhere. Now, since Coy-wolf numbers have increased over the past few years, Caribou are literally disappearing. Just last year, I saw only four Caribou, they who were all spotted grazing together. The carcasses of deceased Caribou are found stranded on the ice every winter, and much more than once, the only possible suspect being the Coy-wolf. The only other large predators we have on the island are Black Bears, and Lynx, which are highly unlikely, to not likely at all as being the result in deaths of Caribou.
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I'm ssooooo sorry for you,Sheeba!I have white-tailed deer where I live.They are very beautiful.You can see them when you drive around the dirt road where I live!
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Post by Blightwolf » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:08 am

There are moose fence in Finland as well, deer and elk cause a high amount of car accidents.

silverpelt 457, as the creator of this topic, I'd like you to refrain yourself from posting "inapporpiate" things like saying you like the white-tailed deer because they taste so good. I made this topic to appreciate deer and admire their elegance and grace.
I'm not trying to act like a backseat moderator, but posting stuff like that might be inconvenient and disturbing for some users.
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Post by Aurora Alaska » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:56 pm

I am so happy that you made this topic Embry, I have been looking for a topic about deer for a while now. I love deer because of their skittsh personalities, how they are always running from something it seems, how protective they are, and how beautiful they are.
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Post by Larkarl » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:39 pm

Elk are made of epic win.

I like deer because they are social animals and look so cute when they are little fawns.
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Post by Fawn » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:23 pm

I love mule deer, because that's the kind I've got in my area and Im most familiar with them. I like their rather plain coloring, for me it just fits.

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Post by Tracer » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:05 pm

Sheeba I feel your pain for the loss of the Caribou in Newfoundland
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When ever i use to come up to visit my grandparents in Burgeo we would be greeting on the long drive by a few herds of Caribou but now they are really disappearing. Fewer and fewer are saw in the town that my grandparents live in and it is a rather sad thing.
I have seen this Coy-wolves and let me tell you, they are defiantly the cause to the diminishing of the herds. I see big packs of those running around and it just breaks my heart when i know that they are the reason for the Caribou to be disappearing.

But my favorite deer is between Elk, and Caribou.
I like both because of their size and the way their antlers are. They amaze me.
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Re: Deer - Graceful and Majestic

Post by Blightwolf » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:26 am

No problem, Aurora Alaska, I'm glad people are responding to the topic. Deer are indisputeably one of nature's elegant animals, they are fast, graceful and have interesting biology. They come in a great variety of colors and shapes.

Caribou is nice. It's much more attractive than reindeer.

Another question...

What do you think is more beautiful, the hind or the stag?

I'll have to say, the stag. It's probably the most magnificent animal ever. Doe is a fragile and a pretty thing, but in my opinion, there's not a chance to match it with the stag - powerful, strong and royal.
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Re: Deer - Graceful and Majestic

Post by Aurora Alaska » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:51 pm

I've talked to many people. Everyone says that reindeer and caribou are the same thing . . .

Totally the hind/doe. Might be fragile, but I find beauty in the weaker things. They seem to have more of an inner peacefulness about them, moreso than stags/bucks do.
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Re: Deer - Graceful and Majestic

Post by Blightwolf » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:12 pm

Reindeer is a "domesticated" caribou, and caribou is a reindeer when it has converted to a wild state. So, they are the same thing, with a slight difference. Still, I think that "home-reindeer" have slumpier backs or something. They just look funny to me.

I figured you'd go for the hind, AA. I appreciate the beauty of the doe as well, but there is nothing more incredible than the stag, in my opinion.
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Re: Deer - Graceful and Majestic

Post by pawnee » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:14 pm

The ones that live in the province are White tail and Elk. Elk were reintroduced though as they were over hunted in the 1800s. Their are also some caribou but theirs been a caribou project going on since forever to try and get a handle on the situation.

My favourites are white tail, moose, caribou and the chinse muntajc (?) I think....the ones with the long sabres. Their small but evil looking....makes you appreciate bambi a little more....

oh yes, have you ever seen what colour a deer's eyes are before you flash your highbeams at them on the road? I think moose are red, and deer are green...?
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Re: Deer - Graceful and Majestic

Post by Blightwolf » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:57 am

pawnee wrote:oh yes, have you ever seen what colour a deer's eyes are before you flash your highbeams at them on the road? I think moose are red, and deer are green...?
I don't know, I've never seen a moose or a deer caught in headlights, but I did some half-hearted Googling and this popped up:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cvdgPlEKW9k/S ... lights.jpg

It's deer, and as you can see, it's eyes are glowing green - so I suppose pawnee has got it right. I was unable to find a picture of moose in headlights.
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