are White gray wolves rare?

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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Poprocks » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:47 pm

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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Songdog » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:07 pm

Please do not make one word posts. Posts should contain something relevant and consist of somewhat a sentence.

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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Icy » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:28 am

Songdog wrote:Please do not make one word posts. Posts should contain something relevant and consist of somewhat a sentence.
opps, I have done that many times on the off topic.... anyway back on topic, dose anyone know where the gray white wolves are?
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Blindseer » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:02 pm

they are found where there are wild grey wolves I guess, when there is currently a white one.
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

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sorry i did one word :oops:
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by CLBaileyi » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:00 pm

yes, but why do people still think there is only the arctic wolf that is white?
Most people are more familiar with the arctic wolf color phase, and not many photographers have images of the older, faded "white" wolves. There was a wolf in Yellowstone that was quite famous as being the "white wolf"-she was just older and the color of her pelt had faded over time. We also have several Mexican wolves in captivity that are nearly white, or very faded gray in appearance.
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Makayla » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:14 pm

White gray wolves are rare, yes.
Most artic wolves are white, though, and they are a subspecies of the gray wolves.
But for gray wolves alone, it is very rare for them to be white, and most white ones have a grayish or yellowish color to them.
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Icy » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:28 pm

CLBaileyi wrote:
yes, but why do people still think there is only the arctic wolf that is white?
Most people are more familiar with the arctic wolf color phase, and not many photographers have images of the older, faded "white" wolves. There was a wolf in Yellowstone that was quite famous as being the "white wolf"-she was just older and the color of her pelt had faded over time. We also have several Mexican wolves in captivity that are nearly white, or very faded gray in appearance.
so the white gray wolf is really called the arctic wolf? I'm confused, :?
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by pawnee » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:32 pm

There are two species of wolves :Grey wolf and red wolf. The grey wolf has many sub speices that are simply grey wolves adapted to the specific region. The arctic wolf is a sub species of the grey wolf that has learned how to survive in the harsh landscape of the north.
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Wolfie10 » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:53 am

Well expained Pawnee. So yeah its pretty easy to under stand.
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by pawnee » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:11 am

thats based on the theory that red wolves are infact wolves and not a product of hybridization between wolves and coyotes....there is still a debate in exactly what red wolves are. I suggest you visit the International Wolf Centre for more information.
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Icy » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:23 am

well, true pawnee.
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Aluriel » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:39 am

The Red Wolf is thought by certain scientists to be in fact a wolf/coyote hybrid rather than a unique species. Strong evidence for hybridization was found through genetic testing which showed that red wolves have only 5% of their alleles unique from either grey wolves or coyotes. Genetic distance calculations have indicated that red wolves are intermediate between coyotes and grey wolves, and that they bear great similarity to wolf/coyote hybrids in southern Quebec and Minnesota. Analyses of mitochondrial DNA showed that existing Red Wolf populations are predominantly coyote in origin.(taken from wikipedia)
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Icy » Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:34 am

Aluriel wrote:The Red Wolf is thought by certain scientists to be in fact a wolf/coyote hybrid rather than a unique species. Strong evidence for hybridization was found through genetic testing which showed that red wolves have only 5% of their alleles unique from either grey wolves or coyotes. Genetic distance calculations have indicated that red wolves are intermediate between coyotes and grey wolves, and that they bear great similarity to wolf/coyote hybrids in southern Quebec and Minnesota. Analyses of mitochondrial DNA showed that existing Red Wolf populations are predominantly coyote in origin.(taken from wikipedia)
Err...... That is true but,.... this topic is about WHITE wolves not RED wolves....
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Re: are White gray wolves rare?

Post by Aluriel » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:02 pm

well i know,but i saw that there was a small discussion about red wolves so i jumped in :P
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